i had an ah ha moment today. i was chatting on the 3 angels scrapping forum and i noticed this woman mistra was making the most wonderful signatures for other ladies. i had to find out how she did it so i asked a few questions and low and behold it is really not too difficult and i had all the software here already to go and no idea on how to use it pmsl. so the banner up the top is now my new signature on every forum pmsl. i love it. i must the be the dog that isnt too old to learn new tricks.